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		<title>By: noncommutativealgebraicgeometry</title>
		<link>http://concretenonsense.wordpress.com/2009/05/16/tannaka%e2%80%93krein-duality/#comment-421</link>
		<dc:creator>noncommutativealgebraicgeometry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is also Tannaka formalism for Lie algebra g.

Given a Semisimple Lie algebra. We can use category of finite dimensional representations of g and fiber functor to reconstruct this Lie algebra.

Moreover, using the same formalism we can associate a Lie algebra to locally compact Lie group G which is isomorphic to Lie(G) and we can from a semisimple Lie algebra g to construct a Lie group G such that Lie(G)=g</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is also Tannaka formalism for Lie algebra g.</p>
<p>Given a Semisimple Lie algebra. We can use category of finite dimensional representations of g and fiber functor to reconstruct this Lie algebra.</p>
<p>Moreover, using the same formalism we can associate a Lie algebra to locally compact Lie group G which is isomorphic to Lie(G) and we can from a semisimple Lie algebra g to construct a Lie group G such that Lie(G)=g</p>
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		<title>By: random-o-saur</title>
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		<dc:creator>random-o-saur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 00:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 16:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>random-o-saur:

I just did a search of the literature, and I have a positive statement and a negative statement:

First, the positive statement. If we have two groups G and H such that $latex {\bf Z}[G] \cong {\bf Z}[H]$, then their Abelianizations are isomorphic. In particular if G and H are Abelian, then $latex G \cong H$ if and only if $latex {\bf Z}[G] \cong {\bf Z}[H]$. This is proved using group homology, see

Guram Donadze and Manuel Ladra, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.m-hikari.com/ija/forth/ladraIJA9-12-2009.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;On the groups with isomorphic integral group rings&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;i&gt;Int. J. Algebra&lt;/i&gt; vol. 3 (2009), no. 11, 525--529.

The original result about Abelian groups and their integral group rings was known for a long time, I think at least by Higman, though I can&#039;t find the precise source.

For the negative answer, I&#039;ll point you to 

Martin Hertweck, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jstor.org/stable/3062112&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A counterexample to the isomorphism problem for integral group rings&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;i&gt;Annals of Math.&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;b&gt;154&lt;/b&gt; (2001), 115--138.

There he constructs a finite solvable group X with order $latex 2^{21}97^{28}$ whose integral group ring contains a group of units Y such that $latex {\bf Z}[Y] = {\bf Z}[X]$ but Y and X are nonisomorphic. This paper is also cohomological in nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>random-o-saur:</p>
<p>I just did a search of the literature, and I have a positive statement and a negative statement:</p>
<p>First, the positive statement. If we have two groups G and H such that <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=%7B%5Cbf+Z%7D%5BG%5D+%5Ccong+%7B%5Cbf+Z%7D%5BH%5D&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000000&#038;s=0' alt='{\bf Z}[G] \cong {\bf Z}[H]' title='{\bf Z}[G] \cong {\bf Z}[H]' class='latex' />, then their Abelianizations are isomorphic. In particular if G and H are Abelian, then <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=G+%5Ccong+H&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000000&#038;s=0' alt='G \cong H' title='G \cong H' class='latex' /> if and only if <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=%7B%5Cbf+Z%7D%5BG%5D+%5Ccong+%7B%5Cbf+Z%7D%5BH%5D&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000000&#038;s=0' alt='{\bf Z}[G] \cong {\bf Z}[H]' title='{\bf Z}[G] \cong {\bf Z}[H]' class='latex' />. This is proved using group homology, see</p>
<p>Guram Donadze and Manuel Ladra, <a href="http://www.m-hikari.com/ija/forth/ladraIJA9-12-2009.pdf" rel="nofollow">On the groups with isomorphic integral group rings</a>, <i>Int. J. Algebra</i> vol. 3 (2009), no. 11, 525&#8211;529.</p>
<p>The original result about Abelian groups and their integral group rings was known for a long time, I think at least by Higman, though I can&#8217;t find the precise source.</p>
<p>For the negative answer, I&#8217;ll point you to </p>
<p>Martin Hertweck, <a href="http://www.jstor.org/stable/3062112" rel="nofollow">A counterexample to the isomorphism problem for integral group rings</a>, <i>Annals of Math.</i>, <b>154</b> (2001), 115&#8211;138.</p>
<p>There he constructs a finite solvable group X with order <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=2%5E%7B21%7D97%5E%7B28%7D&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000000&#038;s=0' alt='2^{21}97^{28}' title='2^{21}97^{28}' class='latex' /> whose integral group ring contains a group of units Y such that <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=%7B%5Cbf+Z%7D%5BY%5D+%3D+%7B%5Cbf+Z%7D%5BX%5D&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000000&#038;s=0' alt='{\bf Z}[Y] = {\bf Z}[X]' title='{\bf Z}[Y] = {\bf Z}[X]' class='latex' /> but Y and X are nonisomorphic. This paper is also cohomological in nature.</p>
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		<title>By: random-o-saur</title>
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		<dc:creator>random-o-saur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What can one conclude if the group algebras over Z are isomorphic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What can one conclude if the group algebras over Z are isomorphic?</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 02:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Peter,

I like your question, it made me do a little bit of hunting. Here is the summary:

Of course, by Wedderburn&#039;s theorem for semisimple algebras we know that $latex {\bf C}[D_4] \cong {\bf C}[Q_8]$. The last statement you made is true though: if we have a monoid algebra $latex K[M]$, then the group-like elements (those $latex x \in K[M]$ such that $latex \Delta(x) = x \otimes x$) is a monoid isomorphic to M.

The self-conjugate, tensor-preserving property looks similar to the group-like property for the Hopf algebra, but I don&#039;t see how to conclude Tannaka&#039;s theorem for finite groups from this fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Peter,</p>
<p>I like your question, it made me do a little bit of hunting. Here is the summary:</p>
<p>Of course, by Wedderburn&#8217;s theorem for semisimple algebras we know that <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=%7B%5Cbf+C%7D%5BD_4%5D+%5Ccong+%7B%5Cbf+C%7D%5BQ_8%5D&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000000&#038;s=0' alt='{\bf C}[D_4] \cong {\bf C}[Q_8]' title='{\bf C}[D_4] \cong {\bf C}[Q_8]' class='latex' />. The last statement you made is true though: if we have a monoid algebra <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=K%5BM%5D&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000000&#038;s=0' alt='K[M]' title='K[M]' class='latex' />, then the group-like elements (those <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=x+%5Cin+K%5BM%5D&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000000&#038;s=0' alt='x \in K[M]' title='x \in K[M]' class='latex' /> such that <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=%5CDelta%28x%29+%3D+x+%5Cotimes+x&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000000&#038;s=0' alt='\Delta(x) = x \otimes x' title='\Delta(x) = x \otimes x' class='latex' />) is a monoid isomorphic to M.</p>
<p>The self-conjugate, tensor-preserving property looks similar to the group-like property for the Hopf algebra, but I don&#8217;t see how to conclude Tannaka&#8217;s theorem for finite groups from this fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter McNamara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter McNamara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 00:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m trying to ascertain exactly where the difference between the two groups $latex D_4$ and $latex Q_8$ manifests itself in the above. Does this result reduce to saying that a finite group $latex G$ is determined by its group algebra $latex \mathbb{C}[G]$ considered as a Hopf algebra? (Is this last question I asked even true?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying to ascertain exactly where the difference between the two groups <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=D_4&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000000&#038;s=0' alt='D_4' title='D_4' class='latex' /> and <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=Q_8&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000000&#038;s=0' alt='Q_8' title='Q_8' class='latex' /> manifests itself in the above. Does this result reduce to saying that a finite group <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=G&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000000&#038;s=0' alt='G' title='G' class='latex' /> is determined by its group algebra <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=%5Cmathbb%7BC%7D%5BG%5D&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000000&#038;s=0' alt='\mathbb{C}[G]' title='\mathbb{C}[G]' class='latex' /> considered as a Hopf algebra? (Is this last question I asked even true?)</p>
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